An open letter to Dan Brown (presumably the famous writer)
Dear Mr. Brown, Re. your thoughtful, albeit suicidally depressing, GOD AND SCIENCE essay:
It appears as though you've thrown in towel a bit prematurely. Maybe you're French? I don't know. But I do know that, in a world which OVERWHELMINGLY bows the knee, kowtows, kisses the ring or otherwise grovels & bleats like pathetic sheep---to one deity or another---"science’s victory" is anything but "inevitable."
And if your "sunsets" have somehow grown more monochromatic, it isn't the fault of physics. The laws of nature are still the same, whether or not it was Jehovah or Allah or Aslan (or some long-gone concept which homo sapiens will never even guess at) that first flipped that original light switch.
Poor Mr. Brown, if you could only live in my universe for a few moments, you might see that there are indeed still plenty of things to wonder at: to watch a baby's little cranium push its way into the this world; to hang weightless in a forest of gently waving kelp and watch as the sun beams create a light show the likes of which any hollywood special effects guru would die for; to surf down a desert mountain on a four-foot deep blanket of solidified water, which feels more like goose down fluff than crystallized hydrogen and oxygen; to push little buttons and watch your thoughts congeal on a two-dimensional hologram in front of you; etc. etc.
Yeah, there are still plenty of things to wonder at. The problem is NOT one of having lost something: Wonder. No, the problem is evidently your inability to pull yourself from the muck of deicentric thought processes, unfold your wings and begin to soar in this unfathomably big, bad, scary, and almost completely unknown universe we live in. It's really not a bad place! Try it sometime.
In complaining that "the complexities of the universe have been shredded into mathematical equations," you exhibit an astonishing degree of naivete, confusing a mere description of the Thing with the Thing itself. Indeed, it's as if you're saying, that spoken language has somehow made the ideas and concepts which rattle around inside our craniums meaningless.
"Science proclaims that Planet Earth and its inhabitants are a meaningless speck in the grand scheme. A cosmic accident."
I guess I must've slept through that class, because I can't for the life of me recall ever having heard any intelligent person refer to the universe as an "accident."
You seem to believe that a lack of knowledge and evidence of the events that led up to our present state of existence somehow makes the possibility of those events a null proposition. Granted, it does appear to be much easier, at least for the majority of the human race, to simply attribute all things unknown and/or unknowable as having come from an all-powerful deity...somewhere...out there...in that mystical place where people go when they die. We (I lump myself in with Humans only because we share a common origination; not with regards to the issue at hand) somehow dismiss the fact that all natural phenomena are directly tracable to whatever events came before them.
"Even the technology that promises to unite us, divides us."
Again, I don't recall the inanimate concept of "technology" as ever having "promised" to unite us. To be sure, many humans have suffered under the delusion that technology would somehow overcome human nature. Alas, hope springs eternal, unmindful of realities.
Alas, Mr. Brown, your last few threads of credibility vaporize with the pathetically juvenile and entirely laughable statement that the entire human race feels "utterly alone."
I don't.
My wife doesn't. My sons don't seem to. In fact thay all seem to fairly happy. Maybe we get in to therapy and find out what the problem is?
Or maybe you should join some kind of club, or have some kids, or go down to the corner pub and play a few games of pool with the local ironworkers; sitting in front of computer screens for days on end might be part of the problem.
"We are bombarded with violence, division, fracture, and betrayal."
That life is nasty, brutish and short, Mr. Brown, is not a new phenomenon. And besides that, no small amount of the violence in the short history of homo sapiens can be directly or indirectly linked to religion and a rigid adherence to laws and tenets believed to have come from God.
"Skepticism has become a virtue."
Skepticism has always been a virtue. Ask anybody who's ever bought a time-share.
You go on and on and on, digressing into simple mono-thoughts: i.e. "Cynicism and demand for proof has become enlightened thought." But you finally hit the nader of stupidity with the astoundingly broad proclamation, couched in the following question: "Is it any wonder that humans now feel more depressed and defeated than they have in any point of human history?" Indeed, in making statements such as these, completely unfounded, without any data to back them up, without even any sort of verifiable consensus to claim, Mr. Brown, you demonstrate exactly WHY science has, to borrow your own defeatist words, "won the war."
You see, Science---that impersonal machine that you seem to believe is steamrolling the poor human race into a meaningless mass of DNA-based pulp---would demand that, before you make such ludicrous generalities, you go out and do the boring and tedious work of gathering some verifiable data. But that doesn't make for good fiction, now, does it?
One wonders if maybe you're doing some sort of freewriting experiment---frenetically tapping out each and every thought, regardless of how ridiculous it might seem, in an effort to inadvertently stumble upon some little gem which might be the beginning of something worth pursuing (that common practice amongst us writers, which I myself occasionally resort to when the ol' creative digestive tract gets stopped up, so to speak)--- you ask: "Does science hold anything sacred?"
Yes, Mr. Brown, that would be Truth. Truth in all its beauty and all its unflattering ugliness.
Sincerely,
Marrs Maniteaux
PS: Go take a long walk in the hills and get some sunshine and fresh air. It's good for the soul.
It appears as though you've thrown in towel a bit prematurely. Maybe you're French? I don't know. But I do know that, in a world which OVERWHELMINGLY bows the knee, kowtows, kisses the ring or otherwise grovels & bleats like pathetic sheep---to one deity or another---"science’s victory" is anything but "inevitable."
And if your "sunsets" have somehow grown more monochromatic, it isn't the fault of physics. The laws of nature are still the same, whether or not it was Jehovah or Allah or Aslan (or some long-gone concept which homo sapiens will never even guess at) that first flipped that original light switch.
Poor Mr. Brown, if you could only live in my universe for a few moments, you might see that there are indeed still plenty of things to wonder at: to watch a baby's little cranium push its way into the this world; to hang weightless in a forest of gently waving kelp and watch as the sun beams create a light show the likes of which any hollywood special effects guru would die for; to surf down a desert mountain on a four-foot deep blanket of solidified water, which feels more like goose down fluff than crystallized hydrogen and oxygen; to push little buttons and watch your thoughts congeal on a two-dimensional hologram in front of you; etc. etc.
Yeah, there are still plenty of things to wonder at. The problem is NOT one of having lost something: Wonder. No, the problem is evidently your inability to pull yourself from the muck of deicentric thought processes, unfold your wings and begin to soar in this unfathomably big, bad, scary, and almost completely unknown universe we live in. It's really not a bad place! Try it sometime.
In complaining that "the complexities of the universe have been shredded into mathematical equations," you exhibit an astonishing degree of naivete, confusing a mere description of the Thing with the Thing itself. Indeed, it's as if you're saying, that spoken language has somehow made the ideas and concepts which rattle around inside our craniums meaningless.
"Science proclaims that Planet Earth and its inhabitants are a meaningless speck in the grand scheme. A cosmic accident."
I guess I must've slept through that class, because I can't for the life of me recall ever having heard any intelligent person refer to the universe as an "accident."
You seem to believe that a lack of knowledge and evidence of the events that led up to our present state of existence somehow makes the possibility of those events a null proposition. Granted, it does appear to be much easier, at least for the majority of the human race, to simply attribute all things unknown and/or unknowable as having come from an all-powerful deity...somewhere...out there...in that mystical place where people go when they die. We (I lump myself in with Humans only because we share a common origination; not with regards to the issue at hand) somehow dismiss the fact that all natural phenomena are directly tracable to whatever events came before them.
"Even the technology that promises to unite us, divides us."
Again, I don't recall the inanimate concept of "technology" as ever having "promised" to unite us. To be sure, many humans have suffered under the delusion that technology would somehow overcome human nature. Alas, hope springs eternal, unmindful of realities.
Alas, Mr. Brown, your last few threads of credibility vaporize with the pathetically juvenile and entirely laughable statement that the entire human race feels "utterly alone."
I don't.
My wife doesn't. My sons don't seem to. In fact thay all seem to fairly happy. Maybe we get in to therapy and find out what the problem is?
Or maybe you should join some kind of club, or have some kids, or go down to the corner pub and play a few games of pool with the local ironworkers; sitting in front of computer screens for days on end might be part of the problem.
"We are bombarded with violence, division, fracture, and betrayal."
That life is nasty, brutish and short, Mr. Brown, is not a new phenomenon. And besides that, no small amount of the violence in the short history of homo sapiens can be directly or indirectly linked to religion and a rigid adherence to laws and tenets believed to have come from God.
"Skepticism has become a virtue."
Skepticism has always been a virtue. Ask anybody who's ever bought a time-share.
You go on and on and on, digressing into simple mono-thoughts: i.e. "Cynicism and demand for proof has become enlightened thought." But you finally hit the nader of stupidity with the astoundingly broad proclamation, couched in the following question: "Is it any wonder that humans now feel more depressed and defeated than they have in any point of human history?" Indeed, in making statements such as these, completely unfounded, without any data to back them up, without even any sort of verifiable consensus to claim, Mr. Brown, you demonstrate exactly WHY science has, to borrow your own defeatist words, "won the war."
You see, Science---that impersonal machine that you seem to believe is steamrolling the poor human race into a meaningless mass of DNA-based pulp---would demand that, before you make such ludicrous generalities, you go out and do the boring and tedious work of gathering some verifiable data. But that doesn't make for good fiction, now, does it?
One wonders if maybe you're doing some sort of freewriting experiment---frenetically tapping out each and every thought, regardless of how ridiculous it might seem, in an effort to inadvertently stumble upon some little gem which might be the beginning of something worth pursuing (that common practice amongst us writers, which I myself occasionally resort to when the ol' creative digestive tract gets stopped up, so to speak)--- you ask: "Does science hold anything sacred?"
Yes, Mr. Brown, that would be Truth. Truth in all its beauty and all its unflattering ugliness.
Sincerely,
Marrs Maniteaux
PS: Go take a long walk in the hills and get some sunshine and fresh air. It's good for the soul.

12 Comments:
what are u trying to say are u on the side of religion or science?
have u read the book?
Lord,
Is it so vague and pointless that you really can't answer that one for yourself? I had no idea that my writing was so poor.
Re. "the book": No, I haven't read it. I have no desire to delve into the world of Judeo-Christian/Catholic fantasy. The reply to your post was based solely on the excerpt you posted. Was it from a work of fiction?
Yes, the book is obviously a work of fiction. It is not some sort of fantasy. It is a good piece of writing, that the common person with feelings would know. If it was not fiction it would be appalling. However it is based on reality. That "reality" must have been hard for you to grasp. By the way your writing is "so vague and pointless". How would you expect someone to read all of those big words and understand what in the world your talking about. I mean we both speak the same language, so we don't need this kind of lingo. So from a perspective, yes your writing is "so poor". I mean "It's really not a blade place!" what is that. "We (I lump myself in with Humans only because we share a common origination; not with regards to the issue at hand)" You are not a human? "Alas, Mr. Brown, your last few threads of credibility vaporize with the pathetically juvenile and entirely laughable statement that the entire human race feels "utterly alone." What are you thinking, is it just that the phrase "utterly alone" is just too simple for you? A laughable pathetically juvenile statement? Credibility vaporized? This is a very respected author here, with plenty of evidence if you would just read the book. "Sitting in front of computer screens for days on end might be part of the problem." What kind of accusation is this? Dan Brown is not a "computer geek".
Neither are his books "free-writing" experiments. I guess it can be simply explained as, he is where he is because of his books, and you are...well where you are.
Don't make such false accusations especially with an accusation that was built on having too much pride, and from what it looks like: a guy who read the dictionary. We are all pawns, don't become a king.
reply if you wish
To Anonymous:
Funny, I don't recall suggesting that Mr. Brown hasn't the right to say whatever his poor downtrodden heart desires. What I did suggest, in a roundabout way, is that he back up his baseless claims with regards to science having pushed us all to the edge suicidal dispair; that somehow the human race is more unhappy, troubled and otherwise worse off than we were, say, 800 years ago during the dark ages, after the Holy Church had managed to stifle virtually every intellectual thought within 2000 miles of Rome. But, of course this is all just my "dim-witted dogma."
"stalwartly" Classic! Keep 'em comin.
To The Lord of Enlightenment:
It appears you have difficulty understanding relatively simple words, thoughts and concecpts. My guess is you are around 13 years old? So I'll try and cut a couple of them up into little tiny bit-sized, pre-masticated (oops, I mean pre-CHEWED)mini-thoughts.
To wit:
1) I did not read the book, so the "reality" of it has no bearing on this dialogue, such as it is.
2) I did, however, read with much interest the piece which you chose to post on your BLOG, such as it is.
3) Since I did not read the book, it follows that I'm not commenting on any such "realities" you may have stumbled across during your journey through Mr. Brown's non-fantasyland of devils and angels and shady popes and evil monks and whoever it is that populates it.
By the way, Lord, these three statements make up a really neat concept...thing (that's like a big thought); it's called a syllogism. Look it up, if you own a dictionary.
4. Thank you so much for pointing my spelling error. I can only assume that I was in a hurry and attempting cram BAD and pLacE together and wound up BLADE. Anyway, thanks for the head-up.
5. OK, try to stay with me on this one. It's tough, but I'm sure you'll get it.
By saying "We (I lump myself in with Humans..." I was merely suggesting that, though I am indeed a member of the human race, I do not share the rest of the species' need for religion, nor to attempt to understand things for which no evidence is available. i.e. the existence of God, Satan, devils, angels, etc.
I apologize for not simplifying it more, but one can only dumb an idea down so far before it loses its meaning altogether.
6. With regards to Brown's "utterly alone" statement, I don't think I can make it much clearer: How does he know that the entire human race feels utterly alone? Did he poll a billion people, and then assume that the rest are likely to feel the same? Did he consult a crystal ball? Did God tell him, personally, that we're all bummed out? Alas, we'll never know, because he doesn't bother to let us in on how he actually attained such a truly astonishing amount of data which might lead him to believe that the human race is "utterly alone."
I mean, c'mon Lord, just imagine if I were to say "male sea slugs actually have a written language." Well, any semi-intelligent person would probably scoff and say "show me some evidence." Yet Mr. Brown makes a statement with regards to the mental well-being of the entire planet (for which he supplies not a stitch of evidence)and people just assume it's the gospel truth.
This is precisely the reason why people fight wars in the name of Allah, or Jehovah, or Communism: they believe whatever they're told, demanding no evidence that what they're sacrificing their lives for has any truthfulness at all.
Sorry, but after the "utterly alone" complaint, your outrage becomes pretty laughable, and I've got better things to do than try and defend myself against little toy arrows. So fire away, Buck, I'm done for the night.
And try reading another book and forget about this whole ridiculous exchange between us. I will.
Sincerely,
Marrs
Anonymous III
Thanks for thought-provoking response.
While I don't subscribe to the idea that there is any sort of organized plotting going on behind the scenes in order to control the sheeple, I do rather believe that it's more the insidious effect of our ancient nemesis Fear-of-the-Unknown, mixed with an unhealthy dose of that glacier-like inertia of the sheer mass of humanity. Sort of like trying to steer a herd of 5 million water buffalo away from a cliff.
Hello again,
This has become somewhat distressing.
About the use of English: Example: There is a 6 year old trying to do math, and a 10 year old comes and says I’m better in math and starts to boast, beating the youngling in every attempt with something better. Everyone is disgusted with the 10 year old, and the 10 year old does not understand why. Yes, I am still in my teens at age 17. You are 46. Are you starting to see the picture? This is not exactly like that but it is similar. All I was asking is tone down the language to what a 17 year old understands. It may be simple for you, obviously but it is giving me a difficult time. For some reason, I don’t why; you just don’t seem to understand the concept of my example. There is no need for this cockiness: “I'll try and cut a couple of them up into little tiny bit-sized, pre-masticated (oops, I mean pre-CHEWED)mini-thoughts.” “it's called a syllogism. Look it up, if you own a dictionary.” Own a dictionary? Am I to presume that I am poor or am suppose to read the dictionary?
"We (I lump myself in with Humans..." Thing: “I do not share the rest of the species' need for religion.” Actually you do, everyone does as long as you’re a human you will. You just have a different perspective of what religion is or what God, Allah ect. is from the rest of society. God has infinite meanings. He is just made general, so that everyone can understand. However once you understand that there is a God, you can make whatever want of Him. To you it appears to be “to watch a baby's little cranium push its way into the this world; to hang weightless in a forest of gently waving kelp and watch as the sun beams create a light show the likes of which any hollywood special effects guru would die for; to surf down a desert mountain on a four-foot deep blanket of solidified water, which feels more like goose down fluff than crystallized hydrogen and oxygen; to push little buttons and watch your thoughts congeal on a two-dimensional hologram in front of you; etc. etc” It is something that fill you with wonder and happiness.
Angels & Demons: Again, you still DID NOT read the book. The title “Angels & Demons” is symbolic, with different meaning to each person. However, it is not how society pictures a devil or an angel. Dan Brown in fact, never even uses the words angels and demons in his book. Again there is no need for the “stumbled across during your journey through Mr. Brown's non-fantasyland of devils and angels and shady popes and evil monks and whoever it is that populates it.” Besides, there is none of that; it is just a book with normal people actually. Obviously, the mere title and my post has sent you the wrong message about the entire book. Also there is plenty of evidence in his book of all the things you talk about, but not in this one speech.
“Utterly alone statement”: It is a predicament that humans will be utterly alone without having a sense of deity. It would be just everything=something or something relative to this, please don’t criticize me on this because it is a big topic to kind of explain to you. A world where everything is known. As this paragraph explains: “Whether or not you believe in God, you must believe this. When we as a species abandon our trust in the power greater than us, we abandon our sense of accountability. Faith…all faiths…are admonitions that there is something we cannot understand, something to which we are accountable…With faith we are accountable to each other, to ourselves, and to a higher truth.” Of course people aren’t utterly alone, and will never be; because there will always be a “Great Hapiness” wherever you go. “This is precisely the reason why people fight wars in the name of Allah, or Jehovah, or Communism: they believe whatever they're told, demanding no evidence that what they're sacrificing their lives for has any truthfulness at all.” I agree “the crusades” were a bunch of hopeless wars over nothing. However, communism is wrong. Many people sacrifice themselves to stop it. Note sacrifice, they sacrifice themselves, not throw away their lives but sacrifice; to help the people who suffer from it. You have looked upon their sacrifice as vain, but it was for a reason, the very reason why the country you do not live in is communist right now. Again, do not criticize me on this because it is a big topic and hard for me to explain those peoples’ sacrifice.
Finally no need to be a jerk with these concluding comments. “Sorry, but after the "utterly alone" complaint, your outrage becomes pretty laughable, and I've got better things to do than try and defend myself against little toy arrows. So fire away, Buck, I'm done for the night.”
PS I have read the book a long time ago, and will continue to read Dan Brown’s novels. I will stop this ridiculous exchange, but will continue to reply if you do. Please post this so I know you have received this. I will stop, but it is not as easy as it is for you to forget this.
Sorry, Lord, but this will be THE last post re this whole Dan Brown thing. I won't be reading any Dan Brown books, nor will I be converting anytime soon. More than likely neither will you, nor anybody else, as a result of our digital conversation. While you are absolutely right in saying that Dan Brown is where he is and I'm where I am, my time is nevertheless fairly precious, at least to me. Keep reading. And remember, dictionaries are your friends.
Okay then it is setttled. Albeit, it was an argumnet it was fun for me. I had a good laugh. I shall be using these new learned words such as "albeit" in my english essays. Thankyou and bye. Oh yeah... about anonymous, he was just my friend also joining in the fun. However I am not quite sure what he was doing or thinking.
P.S Don't take this thing so seriously, laugh it off. Have fun with the precious time you have like you said.
Lord,
Glad I could be of assistance. And I'll do my best to take life a little less seriously. Seriously.
Less seriously yours,
Jefferson Mildot
Sorry, this is the LAST comment, I promise. I thought you were Marrs Maniteaux, now you are Jefferson Mildot?
Yeah. About that name thing---it's a rare form of schizoprhenia. Some days I'm Marrs, some days I'm Ute Studenberg, and even occasionally her brother, Franz. Lately, though, I've been spending a lot of time as Jefferson Mildot, the chairman of the outlawed political party, Guns, Drugs & Queers, better known as GDQ. But that's another story.
Sincerely,
Jefferson
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